Rear axle wheel bearings.
Post by uscgmatt on Apr 23, 2006, 8:29pm
Does anybody have the part #'s for the rear wheel bearings and seals? My right rear side is shot and leaking badly.
Thanks
Matt
Rear axle wheel bearings.
Post by uscgmatt on Apr 23, 2006, 8:29pm
Does anybody have the part #'s for the rear wheel bearings and seals? My right rear side is shot and leaking badly.
Thanks
Matt
Re: Rear axle wheel bearings.
Post by luckypabst on Apr 23, 2006, 8:37pm
Seals are Nat'l # 416282
I don't have the bearing number handy, I'm sure someone does though. If not, the numbers are stamped into the bearing and are common, useable numbers.
Chris
Re: Rear axle wheel bearings.
Post by brute4c on Apr 23, 2006, 9:04pm
From the Parts File:
The information I have for the rear is for the bearings only. I don't have the cup numbers. Outer bearing is Timken #368A with a 2.000" bore rated at 4600 lbs.
Inner bearing is Timken #469 with a 2.250" bore rated at 7300 lbs.The seal is a NAPA #27601. If someone has the Timken cup numbers I will add this to my
book.
Re: Rear axle wheel bearings.
Post by uscgmatt on Apr 23, 2006, 11:23pm
Thanks, thats a couple steps closer. Maybe the cups have a number on them also? We will find out when I take them apart next week.
Re: Rear axle wheel bearings.
Post by brute4c on Apr 24, 2006, 8:22am
Im sure they do...at one point Barrman and I worked through the numbers...he had some due to having the parts in his hands and I found the rest from them at Timkens site...they have a search option...if I have time later, I can look again...
Re: Rear axle wheel bearings.
Post by barrman on Apr 24, 2006, 8:39am
I paid more than $20.00 each for rear seals at the local NAPA. That included the huge discount the guy gives me too. AB Linn has seals for $4.00 each. You are going to pay shipping to Alaska no matter which way you go, so you might as well start off cheaper.
Re: Rear axle wheel bearings.
Post by brute4c on Apr 24, 2006, 9:08am
For the 368A bearing, the cup is 362A.
They list 3 cups for the 469 bearing...here they are with the specs that are different between them:
part#___Cup O.D._____Bearing width
453A____4.2500_________1.0938
453X____4.1250_________1.1875
454_____4.3307_________1.0943
Hope that helps...
Re: Rear axle wheel bearings.
Post by brute4c on Apr 24, 2006, 12:53pm
I sent a request in to Timken to check their info for our application...since the M715, say it with me, isn't listed in the application charts....I told them we knew the outer bearing and cup number and believe the inner is 469...could they check that and give the cup to go with?
This is the reply:
Quote:
Dana 70 used 387A-382A inner, and 368A-362A outer. Nothing too surprising to you here. What we can't validate, is if they used these bearings in military applications.
As for part number 469. Did you get that off of the bearing itself, or from printed information? Reason for asking is, the cup that goes with that is an unusual combination and has a larger O.D. than the 382A. The bore of the 469 and 387A are the same. It appears that the cup may be the mystery here.
Do you have the cup? If so, is there a number on it?
If you don't have the cup, can you get me the I.D. of the cup housing? We can then go from there.
We think that the 387A-382A is the proper bearing for the application. But we are not 100% sure at this point.
So if anyone is in the rear axle and can verify the part numbers, it would be nice...even they arent certain...
Lets put this dog to rest...THANKS!!
Re: Rear axle wheel bearings.
Post by hiker on Apr 24, 2006, 3:48pm
The rear wheel bearing p/n's are as follows. Timkin brg's inner cone is 469, inner cup 453X (not positive), outer cone is 368A, and I don't know the outer cup. The rear wheel bearing seal is National p/n 416282 (size 2.750 x 4.249 x .468 double lip seal) which replaced National p/n 476282-X54. There is no seal between the differential and the wheel brg's so expect to have gear oil lubing the whl brg's.
Robert
Re: Rear axle wheel bearings.
Post by brute4c on Apr 24, 2006, 4:25pm
Thanks Robert.
We do know that the outer is the 368A bearing with the 362A cup...that is solid.
So if the inner is the 469, then Timken isnt showing such a combo for a Dana 70...like to be positive on the cup, whether its the 453X or not...
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