Duece Windshield ?

[Jay Dog]

Well, after looking at Gimpyrobb's M725 with the Duece Windshield Installation (Very nice install) for what seems like the 100th time I think im gonna try it on my M715. Southern Ca. Desert can get warm and 250 air conditioning isnt bad, but 450 a.c. now were talking (four windows open at 50 mph), seems like it will make life good. It looks like there will be a couple of differences to deal with in the mod, but seems very do-able. The 725 takes to it nicely because the sides are straight, it looks factory. The 715 has the angle to deal with but its windshield is narrower and might just fit without chopping the Duece frame, or at least no to much anyway. I was wondering if you guys with the big trucks might be able to post some good pictures of the stock window setup and give me some dimensions of the outside framework to give me something to start with. I found a parts breakdown on a website with alot of M35 parts and maintenance manuals:

http://www.tpub.com/content/trucks2....09-20P0364.htm

In scrounging around I was able to find this windshield off of an earlier power wagon (i think) but it is too narrow and Id rather have the split windows. The frame has middle stages of cancer but if anybody could use it let me know.




This brings me to my last order of business, trying to scrounge the right windshield. If any body has a M35 Windshield Assembly that isnt getting to much use please let me know. I am looking for something in good shape, something that I can work with. If not and you have any leads for used salvage yards or parts suppliers that are reasonable I will be greatfull. I have searched a few online but most want legs and arms and everything inbetween for them. For the M715 I have a full set of cab glass, a dashboard w/glovebox, 2 doors, and some other things all without a home if you are interested in trading. All parts in good condition.

If anybody has any ideas or tips or have any pictures of something similar let me know, Thanks guys, Jay

[sermis]

I have been trying to find out how wide the 900 series truck windshield is. I know they are wider just don’t know how much. I want to do the same to my M725 but the 900 might be a better choice. I saw several around the first of the year I could have gotten. Why he did not post up then with the idea? I would have snagged them…………………

[gimpyrobb]

Uh, huhu, sorry?

[Jay Dog]

After searching every resource I could find I finally found a decent shape / decent price windshield assembly from a M35. A 300 mile trip to Barstow and back, I was home with the windshield. The trip wasnt to bad, I took my KTM and spent half the day riding beautiful CA desert, and half looking through heaps of olive drab parts at Barstow Truck Parts. The guy on the phone swore up and down that they had "tons" of M35 windshield assys, which they did if what I was looking for was a bent up, rusted out, broken glass sort of thing. I drove out on Saturday only to find that all the "good ones" were sold about 2 months ago to a guy that buys heaps of parts and ships them to Austraila and Japan. Lesson learned -talk to the guys that work the yard, not the phone. Not to knock the place to hard, they do get a big turnover in parts which is hard to keep up with and they get a few regulars that know what they are looking for, but I was kicking rocks when I heard that news. The guys that work the yard were a huge help and pointed me in the right direction. After searching the entire yard I found a assy. that was in great shape that the exporter must have missed. Nabbed it for 3 bills which sounds steep, but try pricing them and you would have jumped on it too. Heres a pic of what I ended up with:



The M35 assy is about 5 inches taller and 10 inches wider than the usable space on the M715 whindshield frame allows, so looks like its time to start hackin'

Sermis, Barstow Truck Parts had quite a few 900 series assy's, laying around. They are over a foot wider than the M35 windshield and have a defroster vent below to deal with or incorporate. Call them to get exact dimensions if you need. The price will be the same as the M35.

http://www.barstowtruckparts.com/home.asp

Just wanted to thank all the guys with the Deuce's for posting up the measurements I was looking for and the pictures really helped . Come on guys, wheres the love?

[gimpyrobb]

Sorry Jay, I was helping transport a deuce from Ohio to Tx. If I can answer any questions for you I will. PM for a phone# if you want.

[sermis]

Well I had a 900 frame yesterday but ran out of time and could not get it. Stuck under a lot of other parts. Both windows were broken and i could see a bend in part of the frame. Did not even have a tape to measure it.
Maybe next time. I am thinking that the 900 is going to be too wide. I have a 900 top and compairing it to the M35 frame and the M725 windshield I think it is about 6" too wide.

[gimpyrobb]

Sermis, these frames will lend to cutting down easily. On my installation, I liked the size because I could reach all the weld areas to sand and paint. The four inches of glass on either side lost is no big deal to me, as when I wheel, I unbolt the doors. I would think you could cut down the frame and glass to fill the whole framed in area.

[sermis]

I thought the same but not sure I am that Energetic. Maybe once the deuce is done it will be a project. I was impressed bringing Kawi's truck back. Windows rolled up and windshield open approx 3" the inside of the cab stayed cool. I took my shoes off and in sock feet I could keep them on the floor and it was not hot.

[Jay Dog]

I should be the one to apologize Gimpy. Sorry, didn't mean to bust anybody's biscuits. If I would have read every post in your thread I would have seen that you listed the dimensions . I spent most of the time looking at the pictures -never was to good with readin' them there words ya know! I got the frame stripped down and set it up on the hood like you did in picture #337 to get an idea of what Im up against. Wow, what a difference in size between the M725 and the M715.



I did have a question for you about the defroster vents. I can't see to well but it looks like your rig dosn't have the same gap between the dash and windshield frame for air flow as the M715, but I see deflector shields that look like they keep air flowing toward the window. Does the defrost system still work well around the bottom of the duece frame? Are those deflectors factory? Looks like I might have to make some. Thanks for any help and a big THANK YOU for the inspiration to try it, Jay.

[gimpyrobb]

Well the vents are just there to let air through. There is no ducting. There is a heater under the dash (which isn't a jeep item), but it hasn't been hooked up since before I got the truck, so yet again, I can't provide any help. Do you have a pic of the 715's dash so I can see what you mean?