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    Hey Folks, Shortround here. I'm new to this site so please bare with me. I live in central NC near Asheboro and the Uwharrie National Forest. In fact I helped build the hiking trail there back in the early 70's. I am recently retired from teaching and am taking autobody classes at RCC to do restorations. I have just built a new shop for doing this as well. I currently own 2 Mutts and yesterday bought a 715. I don't want this to sound like bragging so please don't take it that way, but I don't think the kid I bought it from had any idea what he had. It has always been kept inside and has no rust anywhere except the 2 front fender flares. It actually looks like it is only a couple of years old. It does have some small problems but it should be an easy frame off restore. I do need help in finding a good mechanic to rebuild the transmission due to difficulty in shifting into 1st gear. While I'm at it I also want to replace the clutch. The guy who does this should be a good mechanic and honest! This truck only has 8,000 actual miles but I want it to be factory new when done. I also need for some of you to tell about some sources for parts that sell NOS and are reliable. Last, I am interested in a weekend in the Uwharries and am willing to help any way I can. I would be happy to do some scouting or local legwork for the group and we could possibly use my place as a base garage for repairs if needed. I was actually thinking of doing this on my own for the NCMVPA before I found you guys. Please let me know what you think. Thanks for your thoughts! Mike/shortround

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    Parts sources:

    VPW: http://www.m715kaiserjeep.com/
    Memphis Equipment: http://www.memphisequipment.com
    A. B. Linn...in NC: On ebay alot and can be reached by email at ablinn@salisbury.net
    Surplus City Jeep Parts: http://www.surplusjeep.com

    Those are the biggest ones...

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    i dont think they have much new but Delk's surplus is right there in asheboro used to have a ton of good used stuff cabs beds fenders etc i got alot for mine there some yrs ago. I had to go through the lot and find it on my own there at 4705 rt. 64 w

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    I,ve Got A Pile Of Parts Inkingsport ( East ) Tn.
    Bob
    1 423 384 8938

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    A trip to AB Linn's is well worth it. He's in Salisbury, NC.

    He still has enough NOS stuff to be well worth the trip. Plus lots of cool Jeep stuff to see -- he's into FC's too.
    DP

    Man invented the slowest form of transportation - the sailboat, Then decided to race them.

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    I think Joe(k8icu) had some mutt parts if you need any. Most of the 715 stuff I was going to post has been covered.

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    Hey WELCOME Mike!! Your transmission does not have a synchronized first gear. It has huge fairly wide teeth So it's pretty normal to have to hunt to get it in gear sometimes. If it does not want to go into gear gently apply pressure on the stick and let your clutch pedal out just far enough to make things turn. It should find it's alignment and go into gear. You can also coast forward or back a tad. The newer T-18 is the same way. The T-19 does indeed have a synchronized first so they shift better than our T-98's and the T-18's. With that low mileage you have I bet it looks pretty good inside. Congrats on the find. Be sure and post or send your date of delivery and year and VIN # to Jon the zone master brute4c. Good to have you aboard.
    Liz, covid, murdered 10/19/21

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    I just found this by total accident. Granted this is aimed at the T-18, however the T-98 and T-18 are closely related. It's good info for general reference.

    Al.

    Borg-Warner T18 & T19 Transmissions

    The T18 is a reknown, heavy-duty truck transmission designed for and used in ½, 3/4 and 1+ ton trucks. The T18 was made by Borg-Warner Gear from 1966 to 1990. They are found in Ford, Jeep and IH trucks. The T18 is the improved successor to the T98.

    Features
    The T18 is a top loaded, top shifting truck style transmission. The Ford and some Jeep T18s enjoys a very low compound gear at 6.32:1 and as such it is a popular choice for those wanting a very low crawling gear. T19 versions offer a 6.32:1 (IH), 5:1 or 4:1 (Ford) low gear.

    The T18 is fully synchronized in the second through fourth gears. All gears are helically cut except first and reverse, which are spur gears. T19s are syncrhonized in all gears and feature all helically cut gears.

    Identification
    Ford, Jeep & IH
    The T18 transmission is 11.9 “ long and features a cast iron top cover that is retained by six bolts. The T18 case is of cast iron. The case itself is unusually narrow for a heavy-duty gearbox, and features mild ribbing for strength. The case and top cover are both cast iron, with the top cover being retained by six bolts.

    For its first several years in production, the T18 used the same case and top cover as its predecessor, the T98. As such, it may be required to pop the top cover and verify by internal features. Top cover castings that say T98 may actually well be a T18, since they used the same castings.

    The Ford T18 & T19 2wd or 4wd rear bolt pattern. This is also the Jeep T18 pattern from 1980-1986

    Jeep and IH T18s typically have 6-spline and threaded end output shafts onto which the Dana transfer case gear installs directly. 1980 and later Jeep T18s (found in J-Trucks only) featured a 23-spline output shaft that - like the Ford versions - was excessively long for installation into any short wheelbase Jeep.

    There are two different versions of shift control housings. The 1966-1978 versions hung two cast iron shift forks into the case, with the reverse fork itself pivoting on the side of the case. These earlier T18’s have reverse gear over to the right and up by third gear. In 1979, the reverse shifter fork was moved from the side of the case into the top cover instead and all three forks were changed and made with die-cast aluminum. This later T18 has reverse gear shift pattern over to the right and down by fourth gear.

    The earlier shifter versions are readily obvious by the presence of a cast-in boss on the rear, left flank of the transmission. Later Borg-Warner casting tooling was updated and omitted this boss (as in the image, above right).

    Ford Versions
    The Ford T18 has a 1-1/16" diameter, ten spline input shaft that has a stick-out of 6-1/2" from the front face of the transmission. The pilot tip of the transmission measures .668". The front bearing retainer flange measures 4.850" and the bearing retainer tube is 1.430" in diameter. The front bolt pattern is the symmetrical Ford "butterfly" pattern; roughly 8-1/2" wide by 6-5/16" tall. The input shaft stick-out length is 6-1/2". Checking these dimensions will verify that the transmission is a 1966 or newer model, precluding it from being the T98.

    The Ford versions can also be identified by its casting numbers, commonly "13-01", cast into the driver's side of the case. From 1966 until 1978, many T18s used a T98 shifter assembly. 1979 and newer T18s used a three fork shift cover assembly that shifts reverse gear directly. Because of this, reverse location is on the opposite side of neutral than the earlier version (‘66 to ‘78). Earlier versions reverse gears shifts over and up - later versions shift over and down.

    The Ford T18 features a power-take-off (PTO) port on the passenger side of the case.

    The last years of the T18 featured a direct-drive (4th gear) switch to signal a lean or cruise mode operation to the Engine Control Module (ECM). Later Ford T18's and T19's used an aluminum front bearing retainer in lieu of the earlier and longer wearing cast iron retainers. We can supply new cast iron retainers to replace these.

    If you can locate the production ID tag on your Ford T18 top cover, you will find a lettering code akin to “D7T3...”. This may help identify the year of transmission, as Ford uses the first letter to designate the decade (C=’60s, D=’70s, etc.) and the year is called out by the second digit.

    Jeep T18
    Jeep released 12 known versions of the T18 transmissions from 1966 and 1984, with the greatest variations being in input shaft configurations and gearing. The battle of working with these is compounded if you did not actually witness the transmission's removal from the donor vehicle.

    Generally, most CJ T18's from 1972 to 1975 had the close-ratio, fitted with a front adapter plate in cast iron to the AMC bellhousing. These transmissions had the narrow ratio gearing (4.02:1 first gear). These 1972-1975 Jeep CJ T18's adapt to GM Engines with our #1415 kit.

    1976 was a crossover year for the Jeep CJ T18, featuring either the 4.02 or 6:32 first gear and no front adapter as previously. Both these and all CJ T18's through 1979 had the shortest of the Jeep input shafts, measuring 7.43" of stickout.

    All Jeep CJ's from 1977 to 1979 had wide-ratio T18 with the 6.32:1 first gear. No front adapter plate is present on these models. 1976-1979 T18 transmissions can be adapted to GM V6 or V8 by use of a T18 adapter kit that we manufacture, kit #1879. In 1979, the Jeep T18 underwent minor internal changes that affect the rebuild components used.

    Ford vs. Jeep T18's
    The Ford T18's are clearly the best conversion choices in that they are far more standardized, easier to find and often more affordable. Replacement parts (namely, gears and shafts) for the Ford T18 are easily less expensive. Many, if not most, of the Jeep specific gears are no longer produced, making them painfully problematic to own if anything ever goes wrong or if parts interchangeability is required for a specific, non-standard adaptation.

    As a general rule, all FSJ T18's featured varying lengths of input shafts - all too long for installation into short wheelbased Jeeps. These were fitted with a variety of factory adapters and deeper bellhousings to accomodate the deeper bulkheads of these larger Jeeps. We get many calls from individuals attempting to adapt these versions into CJ Jeeps - many of them being sold under the unscrupulous pretense that they are inexpensive and direct replacements. Individuals get caught in often fruitless salvage searches for the rarest of the Jeep T18 input shafts and bearing retainers in an attempt to make the project succeed. As a solution for wide ratio (6.32:1 first gear) Jeep T18's, we offer a new input shaft and retainer assembly, kit #T18-ISK. There is currently no solution for the narrow ratio (4.02:1) Jeep T18's.

    Jeep T18's locate their PTO port on the driver's side.

    The Jeep & IH T18 & IH T19 4wd rear bolt pattern, 1966-1979

    Casting numbers commonly found on Jeep truck T18's are #13-01-192, #13-01-193, #13-01-209, #13-01-210, which are typically the close ratio versions of the Jeep T18 transmission.

    IH T18
    The IH T18 was available only in a close ratio (4.02:1) version. This transmission is a good unit, but not recommended for conversions due to its unique input shaft and front, stud-mounted style front face.

    IH T18's locate their PTO port on the driver's side.

    Ford & Scout T19's
    Very much similar to the T18 in appearance and build is the T19. This four-speed transmission is different from the T18 and others in that it usually features taller gearing and a synchronized first gear. It was introduced in Ford trucks in the 1968 model year.

    Three gearing options were available for the Ford T19. The T19 was available with a 6.32:1 first gear. These were only in rarer Ford 500-800 series HD trucks. The very most common T19 available in Ford applications was the T19A with the 4:02:1 first gear ratio. For two years (documented from 1983-1984) there was a Ford T19 with a 5.1:1 first gear. All ratios listed had a synchronized first.

    We've learned that the 1983 to 1986 Ford T19's, as installed behind the 460 and diesel had the 4.02:1 first gear, in a 2wd application, or a diesel 4wd application. The 460 4wd truck got the 6.32:1 first gear, purportedly from 1983 to 1986 F250's.

    The T19 transmissions are equipped with dual PTO ports.

    The IH Scout T19 was available from 1975 to 1980 with close and wide ratio options. As for the IH T18, they had a unique case and input shaft that make most Jeep conversions impractically expensive.

    Transfer Case Adaptability
    All Ford versions of the T18 are automatically compatible with Novak adapter assemblies and these transmissions make for excellent conversions due to their adaptability into most Jeeps. Both 2wd and 4wd versions of the T18 can be used equally well, and there are no inherent advantages to either one once you have installed our adapter assembly.

    A turn-key T18, professionally built, adapted and delivered to your door - ready for a variety of engines and Jeep transfer cases. Read more...

    The Ford T18 can be adapted to the popular Jeep (and many IH) transfer cases, including the:

    · Dana 18, 1941-1971

    · Dana 20, 1962-1979

    · Dana 300, 1980-1986

    · New Process Jeep 208, 219 & 229

    · New Process 207, 231, 241OR, 242 & 249

    The Jeep and most IH T18's can be adapted to the Jeep Dana 300 and to the New Process transfer cases with equal ease.

    Bellhousing Adaptability
    Ford
    As the reader will conclude, the Ford T18 will marry directly to Ford Small Block style bellhousing.

    AMC Jeep
    The Ford T18 is also an excellent candidate for AMC Jeep bellhousings made from 1976 to 1986 that were married to the T150, T18 and T176 transmissions, or otherwise have an available bellhousing bolt pattern of 8-1/2" wide by 6-5/16" tall. They are readily compatible with these engines and bellhousings, and need only a custom pilot bushing. Note that these pilot bushings are usually part of our transfer case adapter kits when ordered properly. For more details, see Adapting Ford Transmissions to AMC Bellhousings for details.

    The 4.0L Jeep I6 (both Renix and Mopar systems) is adaptable using the same method as above, with the addition of installing a Crank Position Sensor (CPS) into the aforementioned bellhousing. This is a service that we provide affordably and in quick turnaround.

    When filling your T18 / T19 with gear oil, we recommend that you select a conventional mineral oil or a para-synthetic in lieu of a full synthetic oil. Properly assembled manual gearboxes do not have the thermal strains seen by combustion engines or hypoid gears. Synthetic fluid in these gearboxes, while not harmful, is probably an economic waste.

    Hypoid gear oil is sulphurized higher than transmission oil and can be mildly corrosive to the non-ferrous alloys used for synchros, bushings and thrust washers in these transmissions.

    An 80W-90, API-GL5 or MT-1 rated fluid is very good. Some claim faster shifts from using a 50W engine oil in their transmission and we do not consider this to be contraindicated.

    GM
    The Ford T18 has two extra undrilled ears cast into the front face of the transmission case. This is important if you intend to run it behind a GM bellhousing. The transmission having these extra undrilled ears will greatly simplify its use with GM engines. For more details, see Adapting Ford Transmissions to GM Bellhousings. The T19 does not have this feature.
    Liz, covid, murdered 10/19/21

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    Thanks to everyone for all the info in responce to my questions! All very helpful. I guess I should be a little more specific. On this truck (which I haven't driven yet) it will shift into first after 5 or 6 trys. In each case it grinds like crazy and I have to let off for fear of total destruction. I am unsure if the problem is the tranny or the clutch or me? I think I should drive it to see before I start considering repairs. I simply get excited with any vehicle that is new to me. I also failed to mention that it needs new tires, so if anyone has a good source please let me know. I think I might have found a new home! BTW is there any kind of registration or notification for the get-together in the Uwharries in Sept (maybe a contact person)? Thanks again to everyone! Shortround

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    You realize that first and reverse are non syncro'ed right? They dont automatically line up so you can shift easily like 2nd, 3rd, and 4th are.

    To make shifting into non synro'ed gears easier, you eed to raise or lower the rpm of the engine to match that of the transmission...you have to do what a syncro does for you...at idle you cant match the running engine to a non moving gear...I run a low idle speed...500 rpm or less...and rapidly slide the stick into first...it works good...if you try to go in slow, it often grinds.

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