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    I am thinking of making my truck more streetable but can't remember the formula for figuring desired gear ratio. I have read alot hear about y'all going to 4.56 gears and am wondering if this is the only replacement for stock axles or just what everyone uses so as not to give up too much gearing?

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    To my knowledge, it is the only option for our stock axles, also the same gearing as the popular CUCV axle upgrade.

    Randy's ring and pinion has ratio calculators online...engine speed with various ratios and tire sizes.
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    Thanks Doug. I'll check it out but do you happen to know what is the highest safe rpm for the np200?

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    I'll gaurantee no damage to the t-case at 0 rpm

    Nah, seriously, for extended runs you're going to want to keep it below 3,000...more like 2,700 IMO.

    Everyone has different experiences in this area, but 2,700 should be fine...3,000 for more than an hour and you're really pushing it, if not past it.
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    Just to be safe, consider 3000 t-case rpm as the short term red line for the NP200. Think 2300-2500 as the 20+ mile red line.
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    4.56's aren't the only option for a re gear. Saxon did his with 4.10 ratio. Not sure all of what it took though, he may be able to add some information on this subject.

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    Todd, I think the carrier will only go to 4.56 from stock. To get smaller, you also have to swap out the carrier which adds a lot more cost and complexity. It can be done though.
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    The first truck I built up was stock except for the SBC and I drove it from TX to CO and back several times when I lived up there and without any problems except for completely liquifing a walkman that was under the passenger seat. LOL! I ran the calculator and it shows 2627 with 4.56 and 35's at 60. Sounds like the t-case just needs to go no matter what.

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    Put 38" Michelins on and it will be just right. The Michelins ride a lot better than just about anything else too.
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    You can use the spreadsheet I have linked below to play with:

    Tire diameter
    Gear ratio in trans
    Gear ratio in tcase
    Gear ratio in axle

    The rest will be figured for you.

    I can add columns if you like as well...just ask.

    Heres the link...right click...save:

    http://www.m715zone.com/jonmisc/RPM_Calc.xls


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