I have decided to upgrade my wire harness to a painless 26 circuit waterproof fuse panel kit. So I have a Painless 21 circuit ignition in dash wire harness new in box to sell. PM me if anyone is interested.
The new waterproof kit is on the way.
I have decided to upgrade my wire harness to a painless 26 circuit waterproof fuse panel kit. So I have a Painless 21 circuit ignition in dash wire harness new in box to sell. PM me if anyone is interested.
The new waterproof kit is on the way.
Liz, covid, murdered 10/19/21
Some assembly required. Good to see you back on it.
Hi Glenn, Good to see you post. I sure miss that area.
I have decided to change my painless wire harness to a different one. So I have a very nice 21 circuit key in dash Painless wire harness new in the box, all packs unopened and ready for install for sale. If anyone is interested please PM me. I am awaiting my replacement Painless harness. Can't wait to resume work.
Edit: I am giving the new harness to old time zone member fisherman. He has a long time sitting idle CJ-6 project and I have been trying to get his butt in gear to build it out. I don't know if anyone remembers his M715. But it was literally a work of art. I wired it for him bumper to bumper. So this wire harness is a nudge to get after his CJ project. It will have a M35A2 dash. It's going to be slick. Everything he touches is always outstanding looking. So the harness kit is now NLA..
And... my new harness showed up today. It won't be to long I hope.
Today was my late wife's birthday. I wonder if they celebrate an earth birthday in heaven. I guess I will know more later.
Last edited by Kaiserjeeps; January 17th, 2025 at 03:39 AM.
Liz, covid, murdered 10/19/21
So I am sitting here with wiring diagrams for the M715 all over my table. Why did this seem easier when I did this for Todds (fishermans) truck way back when. 2008ish
Well God Bless the search function. Lookie here...
From 2008
This is al kaiserjeeps not todd. I could have fun with this...
Todd and I stayed up late and I did some testing in the 3 lever light switch to see which pins were active on which setting. I am trying to incorporate the stock switch into his new wiring harness. This is what we found...
Pin F is always incoming hot. Changing the switch levers routes power to the pins in this manner.
Stoplight / off pins A,J
Stoplight / dim pins B,J,A
Panel bright setting is the same pins as dim
Stoplight / park pins B,J,A
Service drive / Off Pins M,H,J,A
Service drive / Dim Pins M,B,H,J,A
panel bright setting is the same pins as dim
Servive drive / park Pins B,H,J,A
BO marker / off Pins E,A
BO marker / dim pins E,B,A
panel bright setting is the same pins as dim
BO marker / park pins E,B,a
BO drive / off pins E,D,A
BO drive / dim pins E,D,B,A
panel bright setting is the same pins as dim
BO drive / park pins E,D,B,A
This should be most settings. We needed to document this to incorporate his new harness into the 3 lever switch. Add a couple wires and we will have a modern fused harness with all the black out functions. The manuals can be vague on what bulb is on by description. Now we know what pins get power. Pictures will follow. I don't have my cord from camera to computer here. I'll post up when I get home. Hope this helps someone in the future.
Back to burning the midnight oil...
AND
LOL... I dunno about Todd but my hands hurt. What a cool project. I think we have about 155 hours, 5 weekends, 4 pizza's, 18 packs of cigarettes, close to 4 gallons of coffee, 2 cans of whip cream, 5 mocha's, 4 propane torch refills, approx 30 wood pellet bags, and two visitor's into a completing an 18 circuit wire install in tandem with all the BO marker lighting, distribution box, etc. There were a couple of serious curve balls that took time and troubleshooting to sort out. The first we (I) should have caught sooner was attempting to figure out and wire the wrong turn signal switch. Once that was discovered it was quick to figure out. Then we had a different relay set up for the headlights and horn than intended. The wiring diagram we had was wrong so when the truck was powered up with the 3 lever in off one headlight would light and the low horn would sound. Nothing is supposed to power up in off position. Found the issue and changed the wiring so it works great now with the relays that are installed. Lastly it looks like the wrong bulbs are installed as they are what look like a European type bulb that lights both low and high on the bright setting. We here in the states have mostly either a low or high beam only on older stuff. So the bulbs were back feeding around 5-6 volts into the low beam circuit when brighted. A big leak so to speak.
The headlight issue had me stumped and I could not go to bed. After figuring it out and changing the wiring to make it function right I had worked for 19 hours straight. Talk about living dead.
I am now home and I plan on sleeping for two days straight.
I thought Todd was going to spontaneously combust when it fired. It was turn key and just idled like it was just shut off yesterday.
I have real nice pictures and a short video of the truck pulling out of the shop. I'll post up when I wake up.
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Lots for me to review. Every little bit of info helps.
Liz, covid, murdered 10/19/21
Oh the memories... As I get older this takes longer. But one circuit at a time I am getting it figured out. It was nice to search and find posts from 2008 on this very thing wiring Fishermans truck.
I will say I am very disappointed with Painless. There is wire after wire installed backwards. Each wire has arrows that point to source and destination. They are backwards in the harness and it is a quality control joke. Also the harness was grouped and tye wrapped in bundles. Well it was a mess of errors. In cab wires grouped with tail light groups. It took me almost three hours clipping the tye wraps and sorting each and every wire to open up the bundles and regroup the wires in the proper order. Painless really dropped the ball on this one. I hope I have it correct based on wire numbers. Lots of extra work here. But I am getting it done!
Liz, covid, murdered 10/19/21
I have been able to log some hours dedicated to landing the new wire harness. Unimpressed with painless this time, I am sorting bundles and groups of wire. Yesterday I was able to actually start feeding wires through the truck. First though I landed all the items that need power. Mays well have a destination in place. I am still waiting on the horns and wiper spray nozzles. Both Dorman products. The horns are 132 Db and hopefully LOUD. For a washer tank I found a nice little stainless 34 OZ upright tank. From summit racing it was cheap at 34ish bucks. There was another one that was literally identical for 95 bucks. I was pleased to find this one. It measure 3 inches in diameter and 10 inches tall. And the mounting ears have slots that are lined up with our radiator mounting bolts. But I elected to raise it up on a piece of aluminum to keep the AC delco pump wet and primed. The AC delco pump is a universal pump part number from summit racing is 89001112 and was 21 bucks. The longer tube was capped on the bottom and inside the tank. It is about 1 inch down from the top. The shorter tube is welded inside at the bottom and will allow full draining of the tank. This tank could also be used as a coolant overflow tank.
The pump and tank.
Mounted up on the radiator mount.
I am putting in a 500 amp stinger relay for winch power. To kill power unless I want it on. and below that is a MIDI fuse holder for the alternator feed.
And a 4 position common feed fuse holder. For headlight power feed and offroad light future hook up. I am buying relay bases and 40 amp dual output relays for my E code headlights. I have bought these for years for my other jeeps from Susquehana motor sports or rallylights.com Nice folks there and a good power source for bright lights.
I built a battery tray for a bulldozer I used to own. I had an extra and this allows a bigger higher output battery. I adapted this one to fit the m715 fender skirt that was adapted and grafted from a civi skirt. I had sent it to a friend in Boise Idaho to powder coat for me but his powder coating gun failed and he had to send it back. So I have several things to paint soon. But at 9 degrees here and difficulties heating my shop, that will have to wait.
In place in the truck.
continued
Last edited by Kaiserjeeps; February 7th, 2025 at 02:45 PM.
Liz, covid, murdered 10/19/21
The painless waterproof fuse panel fits nicely right under the wiring pass through. I drilled two upper mounting holes which oddly enough were not present. They are now...
And in goes the pile of wire.
Lots of landing and sorting to do. But it is in!
I like lots of lighting. Beats trying to hold a flashlight. This is a rock light designed for a curved or flat mounting surface. I will put a small weatherpak plug on it for easy top removal. This is my soft top forward bow. Bright as heck. This will be switched separately from the foot well lights under the dash. All LED of course.
These are under my roof top tent. For bed lights and getting stuff out of the bed at night. There are two of them. They are also very bright. The mounting brackets are from superbrightled.com They fit multiple different size tubes and are great for these lights and my high lift jack on the side of the tent mount.
https://www.superbrightleds.com/barbrkt-1-2
The rear frame light. Mounted on a metal part that still needs paint, this will light the underside for what ever reason.
And LED tailights and bright reverse lights on both sides.
I would like to make a canopy that covers all this.
Lots to get wired up and run in loom. Glad to be back on it.
Last edited by Kaiserjeeps; February 7th, 2025 at 02:32 PM.
Liz, covid, murdered 10/19/21
I need a parking brake. I have seen the disc brakes mounted to a NP205, but they are stupid expensive now. Any ideas? I need this for offroad safety.
Liz, covid, murdered 10/19/21
Man, lots of great progress. What washer fluid spray nozzles are you going to use?
Thanks, George
Joshua 24:15
Found these. They should fit just great in the recesses where the civi wipers go. I am getting them from Summit racing. They have been delayed so far. I was going to use the wagoneer single post center mount sprayer. It would not put the stream where it needed to be. The AC Delco washer motor has a plastic Tee. So it should all be great.
https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-80562-47237.aspx
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/RNB-47273
And I just discovered 47237 were a wide spray. For a narrow spray the part number 47137 will work. I suspect that is what I should have ordered. Cheap to replace if that is the case.
Last edited by Kaiserjeeps; February 8th, 2025 at 12:00 AM.
Liz, covid, murdered 10/19/21
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