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    Default Third time's a charm...but it will be slow going

    I haven't been on here in a while. Since I sold my second truck I have been busy doing other projects. I needed a break from the military trucks for a while.

    I am currently in the middle of a project restoring/converting a rusted out 1998 Wrangler TJ to look like a 1977 CJ-7. I am also putting a Chevy LS engine in it along with a long arm suspension lift. I haven't been making any progress on it lately because so many more important things keep coming up. I'd like to give a link to that build thread but am not sure if that's appropriate.

    Anyway I'm into that project pretty deep but I am starting to get the itch to get going on my next M715. I don't really have enough parts to make a complete m715 right now anyway but I couldn't pass up a truck that may become the donor for the drivetrain. Last Saturday I dragged home a 2001 RAM 2500 Cummins 4x4 truck. It has a coil sprung front axle though so I don't know if I'll use that on this build.

    I'm also not certain I want to do my third M715 as a diesel. I have a couple Chevy LS engines that run good and would give the truck plenty of power to cruise around town in. I don't really need the M715 to be a tow vehicle.

    If I do end up using the diesel I'm also toying with the idea of attempting to put the M715 body on the Dodge frame. That would allow me to retain many of the attributes of a more modern truck. (Like the front axle/suspension.) I can modify the frame but am not sure if I can make it look like it's supposed to fit.

    I thought I'd get the thread started even though it's going to be a while (possibly a long while) before I get the build under way. I'm hoping that starting this build thread will keep me motivated to finish the CJ-7/Wrangler build sooner.

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    I think you're fine to put a link to your build. I would love to see it- gonz
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    Here is my current project on wranglerforum.com.

    I was making good progress until summer hit. Now it looks like fall will be when I get back into it and hopefully wrap it up this coming winter. I hope I don't jinx myself be putting a timeline on things...

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    I still haven't finished my "CJ from a TJ" project yet. Life keeps getting in the way of progress on my toys. I will say that so far I am happy with the direction it is heading but not the speed at which it is going. At least it will have mostly new parts on it so it should last a long time. Probably the rest of my life anyway.

    I've been working a lot of overtime and part time at a second job when I can and that has really helped the budget but at the same time taken away time that I could have otherwise been moving that project forward. Kind of a catch 22.

    What it has allowed though was the purchase of yet another donor truck. This time I brought home a 1994 12 valve 5 speed 4x4 regular cab. I think it will make for a better donor than the 24 valve. I have also been able to purchase some new wheels and tires to run on it. I've been driving it for a couple weeks now and "almost" hate to pull it apart. It seems to be a pretty good truck that isn't rusted out or dented up.

    I'm really itching to get started on the M715 now but still have to wait until I get the Jeep done.

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    Today I decided to use some paint that was manufactured in 1985. I wanted to make my donor truck all one color. It has been rattle can painted several times in its long (probably hard) life. I have 4 quarts of this paint in green and even more in black and white.

    I opened one can that was stored outside during the winter. The paint in the can was very dark. Darker than I expected. I had shaken the can and could tell the paint inside may not be usable. I took a stir stick and started stirring it to feel something rather firm at the bottom of the can. I assume it was yellow tint because when I pulled it up to the top of the can it was yellow. I put a stir propeller in my cordless drill and proceeded to stir violently for several minutes and added some MEK to help soften and blend the goo back together. The paint did lighten up quite a bit to what I was expecting it may have been. I thought it may have been CARC based on the manufacture date.

    Anyway. since I want to drive this truck for a while. I thought it may be fitting to paint it a military color since it will be donating its organs to the cause eventually.

    The paint was in pretty poor condition after stirring it. It was pretty lumpy. It took a long time to strain it into the gun. But with persistence I was able to use almost the whole quart. I think the other three quarts that were stored in the basement are in better condition to start with. I'll find out soon I guess.

    Anyway that one quart covered most of both sides of the truck a first coat. It seemed to dry fine and look better than I expected considering the almost non existent prep work and ancient paint. I didn't mask anything off. I did at least scuff the paint in most areas. The bottom body line with the mud splattered on it is bed liner. That bed liner was sprayed along that entire body line. I didn't prep that because I expect I will be painting that with the black paint eventually. Also the rockers didn't get prepped or painted.

    The tires are 37x13.5x17 and don't rub after a little fender trimming up front.


    Last edited by jeeper; April 21st, 2019 at 09:58 PM.

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    So even the paint that was stored inside since 1985 suffered from the yellow tint hardening in the can. I'm sure I could have spent some time to mix it and strain it but I thought I'd use it as is. I was not too concerned about how it turned out. I just wanted it all one color.

    I think it looks pretty close to Marine Corps Green in lusterless.



    It should be fine the way it is until I can get started in earnest on this project. And I'm getting anxious to start.
    Last edited by jeeper; May 4th, 2019 at 06:39 PM.

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    Looking good Paul, keep up the fight
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    Exhaust looks like it'll be a bit tight but I know people have somehow worked it out.

    Glad to see the updates and the progress. I know what you mean about losing motivation as you age...Im in that league for sure...

    Will be checking for more progress...its a good build!
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    Yes still watching of course. That looks like a good sized package to fit up. Don't look at the whole project. Just focus on the stage in front of you at the moment. That is how I try to look at these projects when it seems and feels very far away from where you want to be. It does help. I get the age thing. I just moved to a place with way more snow than I want to deal with. My moving boxes are now getting stored in an attic. And not getting recycled. Keep posting up. You have moral support out here.
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    Thanks for the encouragement.

    I'm down over 50 pounds from a few years ago and I feel great most of the time now but I get cold quickly now. I still don't have a "heated" shop to work in during the cold winter months. Add to that it gets dark before I get home from work on weekdays. This thing is still sitting in the exact same spot as it was since the last update. It is outside without a front axle installed so I can't even push it into the garage to resume working on it in the evenings. I'm hoping to get some time in the next couple weeks to get the axle back under it and get it rolled inside where at least I can aim a torpedo heater at me to take the chill off and be out of the wind.

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