xjchief : NP200 seals

[PseudoZone]

NP200 seals
Post by xjchief on Oct 3, 2006, 11:40am

Getting really tired of the gear oil dripping everywhere. Anyone know of a source for a new set of seals?

[brute4c]

Re: NP200 seals
Post by brute4c on Oct 3, 2006, 11:57am

AB Linn, Memphis Equipment, VPW, Surplus City....pretty much everone with M715 parts...

Course those are NOS...if you want NEW ones, most of the ones from an NP205 swap I have heard...someone should be able to confirm that...

[Barrman]

Re: NP200 seals
Post by barrman on Oct 3, 2006, 11:58am

AB Linn has boxes full of them if you want the stock ones. NP205 seals from just about any '70's Ford, Dodge or Chevy will fit too. They just aren't correct.

If you run the truck over 50 mph for any extended period of time, the seals will keep going out. Switch t-cases or drive slower if you want to stop the leaks. Also, use Permatex #2 gasket maker to seal the drain and fill plugs. Big leak stopper there.

[brute4c]

Re: NP200 seals
Post by brute4c on Oct 3, 2006, 12:32pm

If I recall this right...the stock NP200 seals were rated for a lower temp before failure than the newer NP205 ones...I think Bob Bump posted it some time back on the failed drive...

Seems there was like a 50 degree difference in max temp that the seal could be exposed to before failure...a significant difference...

[Barrman]

Re: NP200 seals
Post by barrman on Oct 3, 2006, 12:40pm

The stock seals have a double lip. One to keep the oil in and one to keep dust off the oil seal. The seal metal itself is deeper into the t-case. That is correct for these trucks. The NP200 seal just has the keep the oil in lip. That extra lip not being there and the new material makes a big difference in the life of the seal as pointed out above.
2 of my 4 are NP205 type and don't leak. The old NP200 ones are seeping oil. That could be age or it could be design.

[PseudoZone]

Re: NP200 seals
Post by xjchief on Oct 3, 2006, 1:49pm

Okay, the 205 seals sound like the way to go. Does some one who's swapped seals have a part number for a set of 205 seals that will interchange?

BTW, AB just emailed back that he's got the "civilian" seals. Does the mil version have the double lip and the civi the single?

[Barrman]

Re: NP200 seals
Post by barrman on Oct 3, 2006, 3:00pm

Yes on the civilian version.

[LuckyPabst]

Re: NP200 seals
Post by luckypabst on Oct 3, 2006, 7:41pm

I pulled the old ones from Frapguys Tcase and called the number in to the local auto parts store. No problem getting replacements of new manufacture. I didn't save the part number however so I can't help there.

All 4 re-leaked in short order and the next step is a redi-sleeve but those are like 30 bucks each and not worth it for a case that'll get ditched soon anyhow.

No reason to get things like grease seals from the surplus suppliers if you can get the same in new manufacture locally.

Chris

[PseudoZone]

Re: NP200 seals
Post by xjchief on Oct 3, 2006, 10:28pm

This look like it will do the job?

NEW PROCESS 205 TRANSFER CASE GASKET AND SEAL KIT

This kit contains all the gaskets and seals to fit all of the
New Process 205 transfer cases in the following

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1970-1991 Chevrolet 1/2 ton - 1 ton
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1969-1987 Dodge 1/2 ton - 1 ton
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1971-1989 Ford 1/2 ton - 1 ton

[brute4c]

Re: NP200 seals
Post by brute4c on Oct 4, 2006, 12:54pm

The output seals will be right....the gaskets...I think there could be differences there...