Seating tubeless michelins

[saxon]

I was reminded there was a post up and short video of some guy using lighter fluid and torch to "blow" seat these tires on tubeless rims. The tire guy's are having a heck of a time trying to accomplish this. I searched and had no luck. Thanks

[Dan Mac]

Starter fluid is the key but remember...START SMALL!!!

[Barrman]

Have the valve stem in, air supply ready and gloves on your hands. Give it about a 3-5 second shot, stand up wind and then light another shot. If it goes POOOOMP!, rush in there with the air and start adding.

I have had several tires fill up and then colapse when the air inside cooled if I didn't add air as soon as I could.


Don't stand down wind!

Don't try it again if the first time failed unless everything cools.

Have a safe place to throw the can if the plastic nozzle catches on fire.

Don't ask people to watch you do this.

I prefer doing it at night so I can see any flames that might be inside.

[amphi]

I was reminded there was a post up and short video of some guy using lighter fluid and torch to "blow" seat these tires on tubeless rims.

That is Hammer's video. He'll probably show-up with some more info.

[randygar]

And don't prefix it with "hold my beer and watch this!"

Another trick is a ratchet strap or three around the middle of the tire... sometimes helps pop them outwards.

--Randy

[wrecker]

I've used gasoline many times. Just a little splash. It helps to push down on the bead and get a LITTLE inside the tire. Also, I have a blow nozzle that has the same threads as the valve stem. With the core removed, leave the nozzle attached to the stem. It won't let air out unless it's depressed-this will help eliminate the bead unseating like Barrman mentioned. Don't have the airhose hooked up yet as you will have a wee bit of flames to contend with for about 30-45 seconds. A safer option is to get good qaulity large diameter airhose and make a nozzle to attach to a Nitrogen or Argon bottle. Beware, the pressure in the bottle may burst the hose if you go cheap and the whipping hose will really cause some physical harm. On second thought, that probably isn't any safer either, but I have done both and am still alive. Attempt only at your own risk.

[Hammer]

http://froadin.com/images/MVC-001V.MPG
http://froadin.com/images/MVC-006V.MPG
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Starting fluid.
Set the rear bead up onto the rim and leave the front bead open.
Spray a short shot of fluid inside the tire onto the RIM.
Stand back and to one side.
Spray start the starting fluid like in the video.

Leave the valve core out.
DO NOT stand directly in front of the tire/rim.
DO NOT leave a 'trail' of fluid!
The idea is to ignite the FUMES inside the tire. By spraying the starting fluid onto the rim, you are not drying out the rubber, and lower the chance of lighting the tire itself on fire.

START SMALL!!!
Too little just means it won't seat.
Too much means you can blow the bead OVER the rim! Trust me, I did this. It's like a CANNON going off in your face!

Have the air handy, it can and will deflate FAST, so be ready to run up and get some air going into the tires before it pulls back off the bead.

[Hammer]

Last one, had to do it again for those same rims/tires, just a few years later (let the tires sit too long).
http://froadin.com/images/starting_fluid_mount.mpg

Easy enough though.

[saxon]

Thanks for the refresher guys, git r dun!

[fisherman]

Sounds like Doug or Al should be involved. Don't they like explosives and fire?