These trucks came with alternators. My has a old generator with external box. Like the m37s. Did some of these come with a generator?
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These trucks came with alternators. My has a old generator with external box. Like the m37s. Did some of these come with a generator?
There were a few odd units built that had unusual stuff...one of a kind type...have heard of a handful that said they had a generator...never seen a pic though.
Does the truck have any other unusual stuff electrically on it? Radio or lighting or something?
No, everything else is normal. Like stock.
Here is the box:
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/3774/im000152wv7.jpg
Here is the generator:
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/3730/im000153ys2.jpg
Mine was apparently a radio truck. Here's what I've got under the hood:
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/9...rts002aec9.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/600...rts003atu3.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/697...rts004ani3.jpg
I would love to learn what all these parts do if anyone knows and can explain it in layman's terms....
(Oops! I'm missing a belt! Better get on that!) :rolleyes:
Binford, you have the 100 amp alternator....it is detailed here in the manuals:
http://www.m715zone.com/vb/view.php?pg=20chap3-4
fwdstuck...I wonder if it is a replacement for the stock one or a one of a kind factory one...I havent seen one like that before...sorry I cant be more help.
I was thinking it might had a alternator on it at one time and it went down. And who ever owned the truck, stuck a generator on, out of a junked m37. Maybe?
Yup. That's it.
I noted an error on the first picture though. The numbered items 7 and 16 are reversed. #7 is listed as the Rectifier, but is really the Regulator and vice-versa.
Now I sort of know what those parts do. Rectifier changes AC to DC and the Regulator, well....regulates the current, eh?
So can I do anything special with this setup? Is there going to be a long line of folks trying to get that from me when I eventually do an engine swap?! Or no....?
Nope, that thing is no good to you Tim, it actually is a disadvantage for what you want to do. Not worth much either, I'll take it off your hands for $20. :happy10:
Seriously though, that is pretty cool that you have the high-amp setup there. Not sure if people would be clamoring for it, but I can imagine that it is worth something to a collector or someone who is trying to replicate a M-715 radio truck, as it seems there weren't many of this version made.
As far as benefits to you, I'm not sure. Yes you have 100 amp alternator versus the average 60-80 amp usually seen (I'm not sure what the regular 715 alt. amp rating is, but your average everyday alt. is around 60). Since its 24 volt though, I'm not sure what you could put in your 715 that is 24 volt and would benefit from the higher amp setup aside from 24V mil. radios.
I'm going to be the fly in the ointment here. My truck that I had way back in the late 80's had the generator and voltage regulator like fwdstucks. As far as I could tell back then it came from the military that way. Maybe it was a unit modification for some reason?? Maybe like the some trucks head light buckets having the old style metal conectors that we've seen on here there was a batch of trucks that got the gen/volt system instead of the alt because alts weren't available during the production run or parts on hand type of thing. You all thought I was crazy when I said my truck was like that...:)
As for you Mr. Timmah Get a S-250 commo shelter and slap it into the bed and fill it with a T-195/R-392 with teletype equipment, a VRC-12 and a couple of VRC24's and your all set. You'll be the coolest kid on the block then.... :)
Tim, you have 40 amps more than a stock truck with the usual 60 amp alternator...run a fair amount of accessories...a bigger 24 to 12 volt converter than other folks can maybe....
Thanks for the heads up on the error...I try to catch where they were printed wrong but dont get everything.
I hear plenty of people tell they have the cut-out for the rectifier, but with none of the high-amp gear installed, so I suppose it wasn't as rare as one would think. Apparently it's just rather rare on the surplus market.
And Joe, I'm already the coolest kid on the block--I have an M715! :thumbs:
I would estimate no more than 10% of M715's came with that setup....I have only seen 3 working examples.
Hmmm... Are you counting the ones with the cutout for the setup, or just those like mine with the gear all there?
From all the ones I have seen with the cutout or other signs that they had the setup...are there a bunch more out west with it than I realize?
I have 8 715's. One with the cutout and 1 with the cutout and all the parts. My estimate is 25%. What would be a typical ratio of radio trucks to cargo trucks?
:dunno:
I think Fisherman's had the cutout. I thought a few others I've seen did too. I'll have to pay more attention.
By "cutout", do you mean a notch in the front grill so to say? My M-725 that I just got has an unusual cutout, although it is very crudely cut. I was wondering what it was for. Although, I don't have any of the other electrical components or connection types that Binford has. Wonder what else it could have been cut out for.
To see what the "cutout" is, look at the 3rd picture down in the link brute4c posted in post #5.
Yup, thats the exact type of cutout that is on my 725, except it looks like whoever did it used a torch, lol. So if I don't have the 100 amp alternator, or any of the other electrical equipment, why would they have cut that peice out? Unless there was a high amp kit on there at one time, and then changed out for a regular amp alt. later.
The guy I bought my M715 from has had lots of them pass through his hands. He said mine was the only one that actually had the 100-amp gear still there, so I suspect in most cases it's removed before its sold to the public as surplus.
At one time late 80's and into early 90's Sam Weiner's in Akron had about 200 M715 sitting in the yard and I'd say a good 60% of them were radio trucks.