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Okay, I remember on the old board there was a page with information about a source for ready-made stainless brake/vacuum/fuel lines. I need to get in touch with these folks ASAP so I can get a set of all ASAP. The lines I have are all rusted up, and rather than chance it, even with the fuel and vacuum lines, I have decided to just be done with it, upgrade, and never have to upgrade again. Anyone have the information about maker and the price list?
I have this:
Quote:
Here's the quote I got from Mike at Classic Tube: (www.classictube.com)
1967 Kaiser-Jeep M715 Brake, Fuel, Vent, and Vacuum Line Inventory
Brake lines: $199.00
* Master Cylinder to Pressure Switch
* Left Front
* Right Front
* Pressure Switch to Coupler on Left Frame
* Coupler to Rear Flex Line Above Axle
* Left & Right Rear Axle Lines
Fuel Lines:
* From Fuel Tank to Fuel Pump(3 pc) = $140.00
* Fuel Pump to Carburetor = $25.00
Vent & Vacuum Lines:
* Distributor Vent Inlet (front of cyl head) = $12.00
* Distributor Vent Inlet Stub (top of distributor) = $5.00
* Distributor Vent Outlet = $20.00
* Fuel Vent Line From Pump to Air Cleaner = $15.00
* Bellhousing Vent Line = $20.00
* Front Axle Vent Line = $25.00
* Rear Axle Vent Line = $8.00
* Long Vacuum Inlet (to left cyl head) = $20.00
* Vacuum Inlet Elbow at Pump = $8.00
* Vacuum Outlet Elbow at Pump (to wipers) = $8.00
* Bellhousing Tee to Transfer Case Vent Hose = $5.00
All Lines Are Stainless Steel With Stainless Fittings
Thats where I got mine. Took them like 6 weeks for man. and delivery though. Great product fit perfect.
I replaced my brake lines. Went to Auto Zone and got the length I needed and used the old line as a pattern and a tubing bender and bent to fit. Coublr had to be joined. Almost as good as new.
I used Mike at Classic as well. Addtional point. I hade him duplicate the stock rubber flex lines in braided as well as the fuel flex line that runs from the right frame rail to the engine. So he has patterns for that now as well.
I just got steel brake lines from vintage power wagon in the mail today. Only took one week to get. They look good, have not tried to install yet.
If you don't mind my asking, what did VPW charge for those? Complete set of hard lines? Flex lines too, or no? Just curious....
I gotta say, I felt much the same when I was ready to do mine. A friend showed me what a GOOD quality flaring tool can do.
My cost breakdown was:
Flaring kit $100.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...mId=1611768655
Material:
$31.95
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
$27.95
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
2X $25.95
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Does it cost more? Yep.
But now I own a GOOD double flaring tool.
Did I have to wait 6 weeks? Nope.
And I can now make replacements at will for just about any old jeep.
Good reference piece for flaring:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...hlight=flaring
You can do the same with the braided stainless lines. I use the reusable AN fittings and all my brakelines have a single piece I can replace with a trail spare in case of emergency.
I know brakes are critical, and safety is something I *NEVER* take for lightly, but with proper attention to detail these are things well within the capabilities of the average individual.
I have the good fortune to have a Harbor Freight tool store just a couple of blocks away, they offer a flaring tool and bender package. The whole setup is less than $50 bucks. I need to completely replace my brake system from soup to nuts and was wondering if I could get by with one of these kits and expect satifactory results? Anybody ever use one of these kits? I know "you get what you payfor but...till I get the tax man paid, every penny counts.
Remember it takes a double flare. See NAPA or advanced auto for the extra tool parts you can not get from HF.Quote:
Originally Posted by fng
I borrowed a friends bender and double flare set. I built a couple rear axle brake lines for practice, as I didn't allow for the rear bump stops, oops. Anyway, I will be installing new to me backing plates, shoes, and wheel cylinders, thanks Dan. Then finish up my rear end bearings. I bought all my brake line stuff from Napa, they are military green in color and you can hand bend the lines, they have a coating on them. I suggest using the bender whenever possible. I'll be starting on my homemade brake lines shortly. The most difficult one will be the rear axle tube brake line, other than that piece of cake.
I've owned cheap double flaring kits before they are not worth it, regardless of brand. You can get by with a cheap bender, but a quality tool will make consistently good flares. Also realize stainless is more difficult to work than normal tube, so a quality tool is a MUST in my book.Quote:
Originally Posted by fng
The only thing the cheapo double flaring kits will get you is frustrated.
x2.
Remember: buy cheap, buy twice. ;)
I did the classic thing, cause the truck just sits and I didn't want them rusting out anymore. It's NOT fun to shoot through an intersection, I didn't hit anything, but I went home and changed pants/ brake lines!
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8181/hose2vi9.th.jpg
Classic Tube does good work.
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3...ningbb7.th.jpg
No foolin'! After test install, remove hose(s) and tighten ALL connections.
Once installed, these look and work great!
That quote Brute posted was from me. I ended up ordering just the fuel and brake lines, as the vent & vac lines put me way over budget. Definately not cheap but they fit flawlessly. I couldn't believe the fuel line that runs from the fuel pump, under the engine, around the oil plan to the frame rail was bent perfect. Only had one shipping bend in the fuel lines and one in the brakes. It did take a couple weeks to arrive. They threw in a free brake bleeding kit.
As good as they were, on my other truck I'm gonna bend my own as suggested by others above. My lines were so bad I didn't have a template to work with on the first truck. Now I can use these as a template. Makes sense to put the money into tooling that you'll have for ever.