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Hello!
On the M715, the door window seals, the inner ones- what are the 715 guys using? Are they obtainable somewhere, or can a close generic seal be found somewhere? They appear to be the same or close to many 1960's and 70's cars and trucks.
Thanks,
Paul
ive gone through steel rubber for some heres a link your gonna haft to look since they don't carry vehicle specific. Best way to find what you need is to contact them i believe some one else in the zone sent in a peice of his old one and the remade it.
https://www.steelerubber.com/channel...rip-30-0507-57
Good luck
No, the seal I'm looking for is the horizontal seal, that is against the side windows inside surface. It has a small bead made of chromed metal, with a fuzzy black velvet like lining that rubs the window glass, keeping dirt, dust, and debris out of the door. As I mentioned in my post, the virtual same stripping is widely used with 50's, 60's, and 70's cars and trucks. Seems like it should be available and "cut to length".
Paul
They are called window inner belt weather strips, try Restoration Specialties. I bet that they can match them up pretty close.
They relined the vertical glass run channels with new fuzzy stuff for the inside of my doors.
I think you could use the ones from the J-trucks, as the doors are made from the same stampings. You may need to trim them to fit the length on the M715. These guys list them fairly reasonably; https://www.bjsoffroad.com/Doors-and-Windows_c_217.html
I purchased the outer wipe from Saturn Surplus and the inner from BJ's although I think BJ's has both.
Adding my experience to this post.
I needed the outer/inner sliding window wipes (#2 outer and #5 inner in this picture).
https://i.imgur.com/AU0wJ3Tl.png
Since I was ordering stuff from BJ's Offroad, I decided to see if the FSJ wipes will work. I order both the inner and outer.
https://www.bjsoffroad.com/Outer-Fro...pe_p_1540.html
They do not.
So I ordered the part from Memphis Equipment:
https://memphisequipment.com/M715-1-...715-p3473.html
The outer FSJ seal is shorter in length along the door than the M715, and has a completely different seal shape. Here they are side-by-side. The FSJ is on the left, the part from Memphis is on the right:
https://i.imgur.com/bKKxgawl.jpg
My original was pretty beat up but it matches the Memphis part. Also, the Memphis parts are new manufacture, not NOS. Mine had a date stamp from 2020:
https://i.imgur.com/1LTi7Ynl.jpg
The inner seal is also different between the FSJ and M715. The M715 is a flocked (fuzzy stuff) seal, and the FSJ has a rubber wipe.
Other notes -
I made a simple tool to remove the clips. It is just a piece of aluminum bent in a "U" shape so that it reaches underneath the door material and pushes up against the locking mechanism of the wipe clips.
https://i.imgur.com/C0AEJgWl.jpg
It fits into the window slot and you pull it up to pop the clips out.
https://i.imgur.com/tKA6n47l.jpg
The Memphis parts don't come with the clips installed. They are self-piercing but I had better luck "pre-piercing" the holes with a sharpened junk screwdriver. I used the original part to get the clip locations.
https://i.imgur.com/sosqNoKl.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/U6szbXZl.jpg?1
Here are my finished parts with a coat of paint to cover up the exposed chrome strip that is on the Memphis parts.
https://i.imgur.com/Zpe0eeul.jpg
Great post. Good information.
Interesting, I used the out which I purchased from Saturn Surplus, perfect fit, and inner from BJ off road, just had to trim to length on the back end slightly, perfect clip alignment. I did this just two months ago.
This stuff should go in a sticky post! Finally a clear answer if the FSJ ones work with our military jeeps.
I'm still trying to get the inner ones via the Facebook group, a guy over there posted a huge pile of parts and I hope he has some parts I need. You can also use universal ones, where you have to install the clips yourself ofcourse.
I was inspired by M38inMaines post to take another look at that inner window wipe, since I don't have a replacement now. Here's what I found:
To clarify, these are the parts I bought from BJ's offroad for the FSJ:
https://i.imgur.com/vGGsM8ql.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/nep1M01l.jpg?1
In this photo, I am holding the FSJ part above the original part:
https://i.imgur.com/VioCBLZl.jpg
I then removed the original inner wipe from my door. Here it is next to the FSJ part. The FSJ is on top, my original part is on the bottom. The length is the same. This clips are in the same position (sorry - this photo shows the FSJ right inner wipe next to the left side original, but I did check the left side FSJ part and the clip locations match the original)
https://i.imgur.com/bGEna2cl.jpg?1
Here are some comparisons of the cross sections:
(FSJ on the left, original on the right):
https://i.imgur.com/LeVCPLXl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/UHYnrXZl.jpg
(original on the left, FSJ on right):
https://i.imgur.com/rdcFZmFl.jpg
The FSJ part is taller and has a wipe extension that my original does not have, but it makes me wonder if I could make it work with some "cut and paste", or maybe the additional material will help seal against the window? I am still a ways away from installing the glass/requlator but I will re-visit this when it comes time to see if I can make the FSJ inner part work.
I also double-checked the outer wipe. As I mentioned before, the shape is different but the length is also different. Here is the FSJ outer (top) vs the Memphis/Original part (bottom):
https://i.imgur.com/r90kHf5l.jpg
The FSJ part is an inch or so shorter than the original.
The BJ's wipes did not work on a wagoneer (1970) resto I did. Rolling the window up caused the wipe to pop up out of the clip holes. Turned out that the window metal the glass slips into hits the taller new wipe pushing it right up and out of place. I had to carefully relieve the area with tin snips to gain clearance. It was fix it that way or don't roll the window up all the way. I would bet that the M truck windows do the very same thing. So check by trying to roll the window up all the way.