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The missing link
Post by mikel on Sept 23, 2006, 10:06pm
Look what I found...
"Truck,1 1/4 ton, 4x4, Cargo (Jeep J200) 6-cyl, 145 bhp, 3F1R x2, wb 120 in., 193 1/2x79x 94 1/2 in, 3981 lb, GVW 7000 lb, Tires 7.00-16. Pseudo-military cargo/personnel carrier version of J2700 Jeep "Gladiator" (1965) from which M715 was derived in 1966-67." Also from T.O.M.V.D.from. "
http://www.angelfire.com/nb2/jeeppic...20pickups.html
Re: The missing link
Post by compexp on Sept 23, 2006, 10:38pm
interesting bed on that - good find!
Re: The missing link
Post by robertcowan on Sept 24, 2006, 2:15am
WHEN I WAS A KID I SEEN A M715 BRAND NEW FOR SALE AT A JEEP DEALER IN GARY, IMDIANA. I THOUGHT TO MYSELF NOW THATS A REAL 4 WD TRUCK. NOT KNOWING I,D HAVE 10 AT 52 YRS OLD. IMAGINE THAT ?? GO FIGURE
Re: The missing link
Post by nwljeep on Sept 24, 2006, 9:43am
hey that pic is from my site....good to know that some people can find it........
I sent that pic and a few other interesting ones to brute4c a while ago theyre probably going to be on the new site.
Re: The missing link
Post by brute4c on Sept 24, 2006, 2:46pm
You did? I dont remember sseeing that....maybe I missed it....were all the ones you sent on your site? If so I can get them from there....
I appreciate it...just dont remember it...sorry....probably my fault...too many things going on....
Re: The missing link
Post by nwljeep on Sept 24, 2006, 5:47pm
I think i sent you it, but if I did not then you can get all of the pics off of my site.
Re: The missing link
Post by brute4c on Sept 25, 2006, 9:19am
I cant be sure either...I do appreciate having the ability to copy that stuff from you...of course I will note the source...THANKS!!
Re: The missing link
Post by nwljeep on Sept 25, 2006, 12:33pm
youre welcome......
Did you ever find anything more out about the "m715e1" mentioned somehwere on the site (forget now). Maybe that picture is it.
Or it could be an early AM715, but if I remeber correctly that came out in '76 or '78.....
Re: The missing link
Post by brute4c on Sept 25, 2006, 1:13pm
That was with a Vin submission and is noted on the VIN list...though that was at the end of M715 production...where this sure seems before....
I dont have further info on that one...would be nice...
Re: The missing link
Post by nwljeep on Sept 25, 2006, 2:12pm
so maybe this is before the XM715......like the original prototype....or an export model maybe?
Re: The missing link
Post by beast on Sept 25, 2006, 2:38pm
I would have to guess an early prototype. Look at the rhino grill and trim rings, the big bench seat, and what looks like an M38 windshield. Things that were all long gone by the time the AM715's came around.
Re: The missing link
Post by nwljeep on Sept 25, 2006, 3:40pm
yeah youre probably right on that. I just noticed that the picture is from 1965-1966 and the AM715 wasnt out for 10 yrs after that so it is not an AM715 prototype, but more likely a very early M715 prototype.
wonder if the prototype survived? Maybe itll pop up on govliquidation someday....
Re: The missing link
Post by brute4c on Sept 25, 2006, 4:38pm
I would guess......
This is one of the Kaiser in house prototypes to explore the idea....then later they made the one on the history page as the first prototype that they showed the Goverment in regards to the contract...I dont think the troop seat style in that image would have gone over well with the gov boys...doesnt look very functional for troops with full packs and gear to sit low like that and egress quickly...also it doesnt appear to have any sort of military lighting on it at all...something that would be required....
Kind of a styling exercise....in my book, certainly the missing link title seems appropriate...civilian truck-->this truck-->the XM715 on the history page-->standard issue M715...
Re: The missing link
Post by mikel on Sept 25, 2006, 5:32pm
Quote: <TABLE class=bordercolor cellSpacing=1 width="90%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%"><TABLE class=quote cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%">I would guess......
....in my book, certainly the missing link title seems appropriate...civilian truck-->this truck-->the XM715 on the history page-->standard issue M715...</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Believing in evolution now??
Re: The missing link
Post by nwljeep on Sept 25, 2006, 6:18pm
that troop seating remids me of this:
http://www.angelfire.com/nb2/jeeppickups/tuzla.jpg
the seats are almost exactly the same. This truck was a low budget export model for the gladiator exported to turkey.
Re: The missing link
Post by brute4c on Sept 26, 2006, 9:05am
Interesting...they sure do! What is the date of that types introduction...earlier or later than the M715?
Re: The missing link
Post by nwljeep on Sept 26, 2006, 2:04pm
The earliest year i can find is 1968.....Hubert cossard had a whole page about it on his site but that site is gone now......
I have a page with all the info i know on my site on the Turk Willys page.
Re: The missing link
Post by mikel on Sept 26, 2006, 2:11pm
Do you still have the old URL?
Quote: <TABLE class=bordercolor cellSpacing=1 width="90%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%"><TABLE class=quote cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%">Hubert cossard had a whole page about it on his site but that site is gone now......</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Re: The missing link
Post by nwljeep on Sept 26, 2006, 2:19pm
perso.club-internet.fr/cohu
that was the main page.
I put it into archive.org and you can get to most of the pages but not the turk willys gladiator one.
So as of right now I have the only pics on the net of the vehicle that I know of.......
Re: The missing link
Post by mikel on Sept 26, 2006, 3:34pm
I was going to try web.archive.org
Maybe the Google cache?
Re: The missing link
Post by nwljeep on Sept 27, 2006, 1:55pm
that might work but google cache doesnt cache pictures usually and i can find the site on google anymore because its been off the 'net for about a year.