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Door seal
Post by binfordm715 on Aug 9, 2006, 12:04am
Will regular Wagoneer door seal stuff like this on eBay work for the M715?
eBay item number 320014737086
The term "universal" sort of scares me away though. Anyone use something like this?
Yellow overspray on dried up door seals on a freshly-painted green truck just isn't working for me....
Re: Door seal
Post by jeepistdougiowa on Aug 9, 2006, 12:13am
Tim, The "original" M715 door seal was mounted on the door itself, The link you posted is the later type that goes on the sheet metal lip where the rocker meets the floor, extends to near the top of the door opening on both front and rear. The one packaged should actually be long enough for the door post (window opening) and such that are not present on a M715.
It will fit, and it will work to seal the door, but it's not the "correct" type....and you'll have to trim to fit (too long as stated above)
Re: Door seal
Post by binfordm715 on Aug 9, 2006, 12:55pm
But that stuff mounts on the door frame, not the door itself, eh?
Any civie applications that I could rob from to replace the stuff on the door?
Re: Door seal
Post by jeepistdougiowa on Aug 9, 2006, 1:00pm
Correct,the stuff on ebay mounts to cab, not the door.
For door mounted stuff I'd have to suggest checking out JC Whitney...someone may have found another source IIRC, but I have no clue who it was.
Re: Door seal
Post by binfordm715 on Aug 9, 2006, 1:08pm
What application would I look for? That is to say, is there an old Wagoneer model that had the same door seal as our trucks for which I could look for a JC Whipme replacement? Or is this just another example of something unique to our trucks?
Re: Door seal
Post by jeepistdougiowa on Aug 9, 2006, 1:17pm
Tim, I'm not certain, but I "think" all wags, cherokees, and J-series used the cab mounted seal... may have been something to do with the topless design of our trucks that nessitated the door side stuff in some engineers eyes.
All I can really say is that I've seen the cab side stuff on a 63 wag that I believe was in original condition...leaves me to think that's where it always was. 63 was the first year for the Wags.
Re: Door seal
Post by socal715 on Aug 9, 2006, 1:34pm
PM over2land, he knows a bit about the seals.
Re: Door seal
Post by porkchop on Aug 9, 2006, 2:25pm
I had a 67 wag and the seals were on the door just like the 715. On the cab was the same stuff that goes on the back of the 715 cab. I put that on my cab around the back and the doors. When I had my 67 wag I had a source for it but that was lost when my old computer failed . I will have to search for it again.
Re: Door seal
Post by snuffy on Aug 12, 2006, 9:48am
Got a new door seal from VPW. They glue on instead of snap on - VPW said it would cost 4 times as much if the 'spring and clips' were used to manufacture them.
Re: Door seal
Post by thetroublemaster on Aug 12, 2006, 2:23pm
My 69 wag has them on the doors not the sill plate.
Re: Door seal
Post by bulldawg67 on Aug 13, 2006, 10:07pm
I am repainting my doors I need door seals, window rubber, etc. JC whitney had some universal wheatherstripping but could not tell if that was the same for jeep truck or M715. The pictures or site was nt very helpful.
Re: Door seal
Post by binfordm715 on Aug 13, 2006, 10:10pm
Quote: <TABLE class=bordercolor cellSpacing=1 width="90%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%"><TABLE class=quote cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%">Got a new door seal from VPW. They glue on instead of snap on - VPW said it would cost 4 times as much if the 'spring and clips' were used to manufacture them.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Shape the same as the stock M715? They kind of flatten out at the top on our trucks.
Re: Door seal
Post by fsjguy on Aug 14, 2006, 1:00pm
If you use the "pre-cut" FSJ door seals, you will need the seal from one front and one rear door to make it all the way around, due to the civvy front door having an angled window frame. You need part of the rear door seal to completely go around the mil. frame on a 715. I dunno about the 725's. If you buy the universal stuff, it's just one long roll, not cut to fit. Cut it @ a 45 degree angle and you've got instant square corners. You will most likely have to re-adjust your doors due to the tighter fit.
Re: Door seal
Post by vam715 on Aug 15, 2006, 2:44pm
Just a throw out offer, I make and sell a multitude if door seals. My truck never had the seal on the door, but I know thats where it goes. Mine has the seal on the cab flange.The trucks that I have seen with the original have small holes with plastic pins sticking out to anchor it to the door. I can probable produce this for us if any body can come up with a "good" sample piece. Tooling is cheap and between all of us who need it, I know it would be fairly inexpensive for me to run a batch. If someone has a sample they want to part with, I'd be glad to work on it. I also would love to get my hands on a sample of the rubber part around the door catch assembly. That is molded, but I have never found a "good" one to produce a good mold from.
VaM715
Loren Bruffey Jr
President
Cardinal Rubber and Seal, Inc
1545 Brownlee Ave
Roanoke, VA 24014
800-542-5737
Re: Door seal
Post by brute4c on Aug 15, 2006, 2:59pm
I'd en you one of mine off the truck...heck I can send both as you probably need both....used stock ones of course...
Which other piece is that? Must be in one of these images:
http://www.m715zone.com/jonmisc/fig97.jpg
#2 in this one?
http://www.m715zone.com/jonmisc/fig101.jpg
#5 in this pic is not available anywhere....
Re: Door seal
Post by vam715 on Aug 15, 2006, 4:05pm
Looks like #2 in the first image. I think. I did not even know about #5 in the second. I'm gonna have to look at that when I get home!
Re: Door seal
Post by brute4c on Aug 15, 2006, 4:22pm
I can post pics of my actual ones so you can figure if they are good enough...
Re: Door seal
Post by binfordm715 on Aug 15, 2006, 7:20pm
Well, vam715, I wish you were wam715!
That would be fantastic if you could make up stuff like that!
Re: Door seal
Post by bulldawg67 on Aug 15, 2006, 8:39pm
I have very little of the seals left but I can see if I have a good piece. Definately interested in some seals for the doors, windows, hardtop seals, and the piece between the windshield and cowl.
Re: Door seal
Post by over2land on Aug 16, 2006, 1:04am
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http://www.m715zone.com/manuals/34parts/fig101.jpg
#5 in this pic is not available anywhere....</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
and Barry might be the only guy with good enough ones to make a mold from.
FWIW, I know that Jeep YJ half door seals use little plastic push pins kinda, and they were still available from mopar last year. the door seal itself is manufactured with little holes in it, and the round portion of the push pin gets kinda buttonholed into the seal... and then once you've arranged all the plastic things, gets pushed into the door.
I would imagine that'd be a way more economical way of producing the thing... with little holes and plastic peices, rather than with the metal parts in it.
And, as others have said, I can look see if I've got a good enough peice for a cross section, but know for a fact I don't have a whole door seal.
Vam- if you make them, I'm in.
I was getting really close to buying YJ seals and peicing it together.
Re: Door seal
Post by fisherman on Aug 16, 2006, 8:36am
I would take a set as well, if you decide to make them.
Re: Door seal
Post by bulldawg67 on Aug 16, 2006, 8:28pm
Vam, if you can mak'em I'm in I need'em
Re: Door seal
Post by teking on Aug 18, 2006, 2:19pm
me too I'll take a set
Re: Door seal
Post by kwai on Aug 18, 2006, 3:39pm
I'm in. Also, looking for the top rubber bumpers on the other end of the door. I haven't looked yet, so I will ask here first. Anybody know where to find them?
Re: Door seal
Post by vam715 on Aug 21, 2006, 7:58pm
Never looked at those up there. I'm out of town now, but I'll look when I get home and see what I can do.
VaM715
Re: Door seal
Post by bmac6026 on Aug 21, 2006, 8:53pm
This place has the product that attaches to the cab ,called trim seal, different configurations and prices and they also have glass channel and alot of different hardware.
Austinhardware.com
Re: Door seal
Post by grantshire on Aug 22, 2006, 6:42am
Count me in as well if you make them.
Re: Door seal
Post by steve715 on Aug 22, 2006, 7:25pm
My passenger side weather strip is hanging by a thread! I'm due for a couple.
Re: Door seal
Post by vam715 on Aug 24, 2006, 7:46pm
All of my seals are shot. Possibly found a Cab to Door seal. Any body gonna be able to pony up a door seal?
VaM715
Re: Door seal
Post by tacomainoh on Aug 24, 2006, 8:56pm
I think mine are good and I won't need them for a bit. Of course I'd buy a new set too.
Re: Door seal
Post by hetzer on Aug 24, 2006, 9:01pm
Is there anyone here who would not want to buy a set?? I need some too.
Build it and they will come.