binfordm715 : Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)

Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by binfordm715 on May 25, 2006, 11:55pm

Well I think I really scored here! I found a site as dedicated to old carbutetors and sundry car parts as we are dedicated to M715s! In an e-mail exchange with their Grand Poobah, I gave him all the numbers off my M715 carburetor and he said he found the exact kit for it, their CK537, which he even has in stock. It ain't cheap, but not too bad. $41.71 plus shipping. Here's a link to it:

http://www.partschoice.com/carbs/kits/CK537.htm

He said he'll put up a pic for it soon.

I also asked him about that plastic "pump operating lever" and he said that while he doesn't have any on hand, he can probably get some. So keep that in mind.

He invited us to link to him too. There's the rebuild kit link above and their main link is: http://www.carburetor.ca

He wants to add the M715 to his data list. Am I correct in telling him that the Holley 1920 was installed in all '67 to '69 model years? Or was there a change part way through? Or was there even an alternative OEM carb installed on some? I'd like to pass on as detailed (and correct) info on that as I can. Anyone know for sure?

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by elwenil on May 26, 2006, 7:35am

In my research I found that no one kit had the correct gaskets. I have book from Borg-Warner that break the kits down to pics of the individual components and a lot were close, but something was always missing. I found two kits for a Mopar Slant 6 with the same carb that would give you what you need, but they were expensive and not worth it. Believe it or not, I think my swap to a 318 V8 is cheaper, lol. The vent gasket and the baseplate gasket were the main ones that I had problems with if I remember correctly. Not that there may be a kit out there somewhere through another source that will work, but I couldn't find anything with what I had to work with. Just my .02

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by brute4c on May 26, 2006, 9:11am

The entire G890 series, M715, M724,, M725, and M726 trucks, came with the 1920 Holley. I do not know if there is a difference in the later carbs, on the governor equipped trucks for sure, but the parts manual shows only 1 type being used.

I also agree with El that several kits have been found only to have missing or wrong gaskets and other issues....

It would be great if this is the correct kit...I would be happy to link it if so...let me know...are you ordering one?

The arm in question on the side is the accelerator pump actuator...gives a shot of gas when accelerating to get going without hesitation...sucks when they break and there is that ever present bog on take off...

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by binfordm715 on May 26, 2006, 11:57am


Quote: <TABLE class=bordercolor cellSpacing=1 width="90%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%"><TABLE class=quote cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%">I also agree with El that several kits have been found only to have missing or wrong gaskets and other issues....

It would be great if this is the correct kit...I would be happy to link it if so...let me know...are you ordering one?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

I wasn't going to order one, since I have pretty much all I need now. I will ask the guy for a picture of all the parts included so we can figure out if it's actually a correct kit.


Quote: <TABLE class=bordercolor cellSpacing=1 width="90%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%"><TABLE class=quote cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%">The arm in question on the side is the accelerator pump actuator...gives a shot of gas when accelerating to get going without hesitation...sucks when they break and there is that ever present bog on take off...</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Yeah, that's the part he said he didn't have, but could probably get. Anyone need one? Ask him to see if he can!

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by brute4c on May 26, 2006, 12:09pm

Keep me posted on this Tim....would love to know that a solution is out there....not gonna hold my breath but I will hold out hope!

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by socal715 on May 26, 2006, 12:28pm

Rad, nice work man. thanks for the source.

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by robsgp on May 26, 2006, 12:37pm

I will check with him later. I'm trying to make a new one out of 1/8" thick aluminum. I logged in to check pics you guys posted in the previous thread...

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by binfordm715 on May 31, 2006, 12:29am


Quote: <TABLE class=bordercolor cellSpacing=1 width="90%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%"><TABLE class=quote cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%">Keep me posted on this Tim....would love to know that a solution is out there....not gonna hold my breath but I will hold out hope!</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

You know, Jon.... I think you can hold your breath now! This looks spot-on right to me!

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/6...hunter17kv.png

What do y'all think? The only thing I haven't found a use for yet is the round gasket. What's that used for? And why the two base gaskets? I think my kit came with two as well. Are they for different options, or are they supposed to be sandwiched together?

Anyway, here's the website, if you want to look at a larger view of that image. This is what that kit contains.

http://carbs.partschoice.com/images/...size/ck537.jpg

Let me know if you see anything wrong with this kit. Anything missing? Anything extra?

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by jeepistdougiowa on May 31, 2006, 12:37am

IIRC you need the base gasket on the right. Been there and done that and the wrong one won't let your idle circut function.
As far as the round one, it looks too small to be the carb to snorkle gasket, but it's been a while since I've looked at one. Proportions just don't look right.

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by binfordm715 on May 31, 2006, 12:47am


Quote: <TABLE class=bordercolor cellSpacing=1 width="90%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%"><TABLE class=quote cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%">IIRC you need the base gasket on the right. Been there and done that and the wrong one won't let your idle circut function.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Yeah, there's a hole in the base of the carburetor that one of those notches would fit over.

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by brute4c on May 31, 2006, 8:13am

I wouldnt worry too much about extra parts...remember, we have been looking for a kit due to being able to buy kits for the 1920 Holley only to find extra parts we didnt need and not enough of the ones we do....

So far it looks like a winner!!

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by binfordm715 on May 31, 2006, 11:17am

So does this carburetor rebuild kit then have the Offical M715Zone Approval Seal of Correctness?

If it's official, I'll let the carb guy know and he'll post the M715 data on his applications list.

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by elwenil on May 31, 2006, 11:38am

I'd do a full rebuild on one to be sure. If I remember from my fooling around with the stock carb, back when I was keeping that engine, the issues were the accelerator pump diaphragm and the vent and gasket. The vent looks good, but I can't remember if the pump diaphragm was supposed to be square or rectangular. I hope this does turn out to be the right one for the carb. All I came up with were dead ends. I'd get one and try it out if it's not real expensive. Might even con your parts guy into letting you have one cheap since if this works I can guarantee he will sell quite a few more from fellow Zoners.

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by brute4c on May 31, 2006, 11:45am

Being that El is absolutely correct anfd we need to actually run this kit and a carb on a collision course first...I would hold off on saying it is "The Kit"....

So who needs a stock carb rebuilt????

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by robsgp on May 31, 2006, 9:03pm

Looks a lot like the NOS kit I bought, but mine only had the base gasket on the right (which also doesn't look like the metal one I took off). Perhaps the one on the left is for a governed truck? My round gasket is beveled and fits nicely around the lip at the top of the carb.


Can't be absolutely positive, but it sure looks right!

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by binfordm715 on May 31, 2006, 11:53pm

I'm still rebuilding my carb, but have all the parts I need to finish it.

But I'll take one for the team and order one of these kits just to be sure....

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by dj on Jun 1, 2006, 7:01pm

Ive not looked for a carb kit for my 715 yet,but have heard good things said about " Then and Now Automotive." I got my M38 kits frm Mid west Mil,so did not use Tand H . Anyone ever use them or have contact with them. I emailed them asking about a Holley 1920 rebuild or kit for a M715, will let you knowhwat I hear.

DJ

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by elwenil on Jun 1, 2006, 7:27pm

Several members have gotten parts or rebuilds from Then and Now with good success.

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by jfnemt1ff1 on Jun 18, 2006, 8:21pm

The small round gasket looks like the auto choke gasket if it came with that.
John

Re: Correct carburetor kit found!!! (Holley 1920)
Post by jackj on Jun 18, 2006, 9:41pm

Memphis Equipment has them(OE Jeep/Kaiser kits).Jeep part # is 944428 for $ 28.36 of course I picked it up personally so shipping will be more.Yes the carb kit you have listed #537 looks exactly like mine but the "Jeep" kit came with a couple more small washers and an extra O ring.