warthog : Motor Mounts

Motor Mounts
Post by warthog on Jun 7, 2006, 5:09pm

I will be mounting a 427 tall deck in mine. I'm curious about a set of motor mounts someone had posted up. He has a 454 and they look like they are from Advanced Adapters, universal motor mounts. I had saved the pic, as I thought they were a great idea. However, how strong are they? Will they support the 427 being hammered on, not ride the street?

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...nginemount.jpg

Basically, I'm doing a setup simular to Spicer's. Never seen his truck though. I've rebuilt my rockwells, have 3053a, have bellhousing, 44" boggers, picked up the 427 tall deck this past weekend. Next month will be mocking trans & engine in frame and need to figure out mounts/position.

Any suggestions on the mounts?.
Thanks, Dan

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by over2land on Jun 7, 2006, 5:17pm

Barry ran those mounts (or similar) in his as I recall.

And, from what I've heard and pictures/video's I've seen, Barry wasn't the least bit kind to his trucks.

He had those mounts in his monster truck as well, which indicates to me they'd hold up pretty good to a beating.

Not first hand experiance, but hope it helps.

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by bigwheelbob on Jun 7, 2006, 8:06pm

Those mounts will hold up to about anything, just be sure to use the real Advanced Adaptors mounts, not some copy cats like trans Dapt or something.

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by brute4c on Jun 7, 2006, 8:13pm

The ones spicer made out of flat plate worked in his TTC truck with the 427 TALL Deck motor and also in other big and small block Chevys...I mean these:

http://www.m715zone.com/jonmisc/spicermount1.jpg
http://www.m715zone.com/jonmisc/spicermount2.jpg
http://www.m715zone.com/jonmisc/spicermount3.jpg
http://www.m715zone.com/jonmisc/spicermount4.jpg

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by robertcowan on Jun 7, 2006, 8:14pm

use your stock frame horns and a set of my engine mounts. 75.00. why cut the truck ?
bob

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by brute4c on Jun 7, 2006, 8:34pm

That mount in the first pic is available from PAW as well...its in their paper catalogue at least...

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by poolmike on Jun 7, 2006, 10:19pm

Here's a pic of the 'spicer mount' bolted to a 6.2.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9...swap0187yc.jpg

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by oilcan on Jun 7, 2006, 10:45pm

Those spicergear mounts work beautifully. And you can build 'em out of scrap in about 10 minuites if you're slow. (like me)

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by jeepistdougiowa on Jun 7, 2006, 10:48pm

Another version...LOL

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/4756/img40467hu.jpg

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by davea on Jun 8, 2006, 10:38am

'67-72 chevy pickup mounts work well and bolt to the stock frame horns. about $10.00 each at most parts stores. I would probably use a pointed stud in the frame mount side instead of a bolt for ease of alignment. These are what sisson used to put his tall deck in.

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by brute4c on Jun 8, 2006, 10:47am

Doesnt that move the engine back so that one has to do some firewall contouring to get the distributor to fit?

I am under the impression that the spicer mount plate moves the ngine forward enough so that is no problem. I know spicer had room front and rear of the motor...plenty in both directions.

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by brute4c on Jun 8, 2006, 11:11am

I remember that Brian has to mash the firewall for the distributor...

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by bluesman2a on Jun 8, 2006, 11:12am

I have those AA mounts on mine. They are very well built and make placement a snap. I haven't run mine yet, but don't anticipate any issues with my stroker.

You can get some more pics in my doubler x-member thread. If there are any specific shots you want, I'd be happy to grab them, my driveline is in/out a lot these days.

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by bluesman2a on Jun 8, 2006, 11:27am

Oh, one other thought. The only serious issue I had on them with mine was clearance on the steering intermediate shaft on the driver's side. Not an insurmountable, but a concern none-the-less.

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by warthog on Jun 8, 2006, 12:51pm

I had remembered Spicer used the plate method and had considered it. I plan to mount a PTO winch from a M35 up front. I remember Spicer having to modify the mount on the driver side, but can't remember if it was for the PTO shaft or steering column. I figured by using the mount from advance adapters it would open up some of that space. Even though the plate method is a lot simpler and cheaper.

I do plan to move the engine forward a little, as I just repaired firewall some numb skull had cut it all up and peeled back like a tin can.

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by 40grit on Jun 8, 2006, 5:09pm

I bought the trans-dapt...same exact thing as the AA, only without the diagonal support, the rest is the same, same thickness, I think AA buys the transdapt kit and welds them except for the price...get the transdapt kit, weld in some diagonals and be set...
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/149...rmounts9db.jpg
as for holding up...well, i'll see sooner or later when I uncork 450Hp thru them..but i'm sure they'll be fine even with a lot of torque and rockwells....

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by brute4c on Jun 9, 2006, 8:36am

Now that you post that....

PAW sells the Trans Dapt ones...I see the difference now, though I hadnt looked too close before...THANKS!!

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by warthog on Jun 9, 2006, 9:26am

Thanks to all for posting all the different possible options.

Re: Motor Mounts
Post by barrman on Jun 9, 2006, 11:58pm

I used the "Spicer" plate on my 396. 6,000 real world miles later and they are doing great. Easy to make, cheap and you clear the firewall with lots of room to spare. The stearing is not even close to the mounts.

I used the stock 230 motor mounts bolted to the frame horns with the "plate" bolting the mounts to the engine. The only trouble I have noticed is that my engine is now tilted about 4 degrees to one side. The motor mounts have slid in the groove from all the massive torque. I just need to loosen the nuts and twist it back. Not really a problem, but something I noticed.