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elwenil :
Re: What Trailer to Pull a M715?
Post by elwenil on Oct 20, 2006, 3:12pm
40Grit, we use the same chain come-a-longs when we tow sometimes. They are about the only thing that will hold up to all the mud and odd rigging we have to do with some trucks. They work fine as long as you keep the brake adjusted and DO NOT lubricate it at all. Keep it clean, but don't lube anything. If it gets tight and rusty, break it free by pulling something with it a little if it gets stuck or take it apart. We've had some let go because some monkey sprayed WD-40 or some crap in one and it gets in the brake. Also there is a pin or something that can let go and the handle will reverse under load. This is the part that will break under shock load. Wrapping the remaining slack chain around the handle and the tensioned chain to prevent this from happening. It may not be the safest way to pull something, but we've done it for years without incident for many many years. Even with a few accidents caused by dumb drivers we have never lost a load while using the chain come-a-longs.
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robertcowan :
Re: What Trailer to Pull a M715?
Post by robertcowan on Oct 20, 2006, 4:10pm
THOSE ARNT COME-A-LONGS THERE RATCHET LOAD BINDERS ?????????
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brute4c :
Re: What Trailer to Pull a M715?
Post by brute4c on Oct 20, 2006, 4:13pm
PICS!!!!!
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kwai :
Re: What Trailer to Pull a M715?
Post by kwai on Oct 20, 2006, 4:54pm
Mark, what were you using?
This is a ratchet load binder:
http://www.northerntool.com/images/p.../152987_lg.gif
This is a come-along.
http://www.mytoolstore.com/app/144d1.jpg
This is a chain puller:
http://www.mytoolstore.com/app/735c.jpg
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kwai :
Re: What Trailer to Pull a M715?
Post by kwai on Oct 20, 2006, 5:01pm
I just got some of the ratchet load binders to replace my lever load binders.
Question: With the lever load binder, I always wrap the chain around the handle to prevent it from opening. Is there something equivalent you need to do to a ratchet load binder to prevent it from loosening?
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xjchief :
Re: What Trailer to Pull a M715?
Post by xjchief on Oct 20, 2006, 6:02pm
Quote: <TABLE class=bordercolor cellSpacing=1 width="90%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%"><TABLE class=quote cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD width="100%">xjchief how can i find those pics?</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Here's a link to his website with the pictures. I talked to him on the phone once a while back about his decals- he's a great guy so I sure he'll be happy to discuss the towing with you if you email him.
http://www.davidallenracing.com/M35A2done.htm
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robertcowan :
Re: What Trailer to Pull a M715?
Post by robertcowan on Oct 20, 2006, 6:15pm
KWAI, NO THEY WONT BACK OFF. I USED THEM FOR 25 YEARS HAULING SINGLE COILS UP TO 50,000 LBS. NEVER A PROBLEM
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robertcowan :
Re: What Trailer to Pull a M715?
Post by robertcowan on Oct 20, 2006, 6:16pm
DONT USE A CHEATER PIPE ALSO OR YOU,LL PULL UP YOUR TIE DOWNS, PROMISS
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40grit :
Re: What Trailer to Pull a M715?
Post by 40grit on Oct 20, 2006, 11:33pm
the thing you are calling a chain puller, we refer to them as come-alongs or chainfalls...but yes, #3....
the hook snapped before the rachet assembly even though about backing off...actually, if we put another hook on it, it still works even after taking well over 10 times what it was rated for...
El is right, their enemy is someone who doesn't know how they work , or worse, thinks they can improve them...
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40grit :
Re: What Trailer to Pull a M715?
Post by 40grit on Oct 20, 2006, 11:38pm
kwai, I'd still wrap the loose chain around the the tightened chain and handle, if the extra chain swung in just the right spot, it could release the latch and theorectically allow them to loosen...chance of it actually happening, very , very small, but still a chance...
so here's another question, when do you replace the chain and binders?
-a certain amount of time, say 5 years
-after a heavy shock load, just for safety's asake
-when you can't tell what the original color used to be anymore...
We ship and receive a lot of stuff, some of these truckers chains and binders look older than me, I'd much rather trust a new chain fall than some of the rusty stuff I've seen hooked up...