The V.A. and my m715

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Originally Posted by fng

You know, historically the VA has always been at the bottom of the barrel for quality health care. In EMS we always refered to any flight originating from a VA facility as "a scene" (a term usually refering to any accident along a roadside or anywhere other than indoors).
Think about it, the doc's usually have last names that begin with 3 consonants, the medical staff is surly, incompetent and indifferent. There is a pervasive attitude amongst all thier employee's including the non medical staff. All employee's receive gub'ment benefits and collectively thier primary focus is just to perform to the minimum standard required to keep their job. If you've ever had the experience to visit any VA they all have that certain "smell" to them. (read: unclean). And the overall consensus of the professional medical folks I've worked with in the past is that the VA is the worst place any critical operation or serious medical proceedure that can be performed.

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Thanks for a glimpse into our National Healthcare future!

Go Dems!!!!

I normally don't reply to these, but you can't condemn them all. I also use the VA system. I used Walla Walla for 4 years and now use Grand Junction (for 4 years). Both have been very professional and the staff is great at both places. They have lacked funding, but Clinton also underfunded the VA. In fact his Appointee to run the system was one of the worst. I've been in civilian hospitals that are worse (and , yes, some better).

If you want a new shovel or axe better get it soon,before you can't. Like 2HN batteries that fit Military vehicles,civilians cxan't buy them anymore!!

I think these "security " bozos were bored and looking for something to do. Whatever your response is should involve as limited an effort as possible for you, and as big an inconveniance, that is as long lasting as possible for them. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by fng

You can't file a lawsuit against the VA but you can get the media and press involved. I'd make a big deal out of it. I'd insist that they pay for the damage to the "highly sought after and collectable, one of a kind custom military vehicle". Up to and including a new paint job since a bodyshop can't correctly match up the paint on the heavily dammaged quarter panel!
Please believe me you can do alot with just a couple of phone calls.
I flew for Oklahoma University Hospital witch is co-located with the VA in OKC. During the two years I worked there I came to see the security people there as a bunch of self-important, no GED havin', lazy, ethnically challenged, low life-can't get a job anywhere else bullies. Hard to get a good $6.00 an hour rent-a-cop these days!
Call your local TV station (today!) for a 30 second soundbite with a two shot showing the damage to your truck (nice truck too, by the way) that you spent years and many thousands of dollars to restore and since of course your post surgically impaired, you "just don't see how you can afford the time, effort, and money to correct it." .........you just may be able to gold plate that brushguard and shifter after that hits the air!
Seriously, I'd persue this one with gusto, the media milks on stuff like this.
Sorry for the rant but I've been told I have trouble with authority before, does it show?

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Atually he VA doesn't have security they are actual police which makes them worse. I am at hospitals all day every day and the VA police are by far the worse anywhere. One of our guys forgot his security badge and tried to get in. the lady cop wouldn't let him by. On his way out he muttered "" under his breath. The cop gave him a $250 fine then called the company and stated if they didn't immediatly fire him she would press charges on them. By the time he got to the office he was alread fired and had no idea.
I say stick it t them. someone needs to teach them a lesson.

So much for Freedom of Speech, huh?