Also, Are you going to try and put in the side angle to resemble the stock 715 window, or just go with 90s? Gonna try and retain the fold down function?
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Also, Are you going to try and put in the side angle to resemble the stock 715 window, or just go with 90s? Gonna try and retain the fold down function?
Hey Gimpy, been working the long hours. I can't even find time to find daylight to take pictures in :(. Here is a couple of my dash / vents.
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and the shots of yours I was looking at were here on page 5:
http://www.m715zone.com/vb/showthrea...dshield&page=5
There are two strips of metal that are screwed to the top of the dash that come up and make a 45. Looks like they direct air toward the glass but can't tell for sure. I was thinking about making some as the frame will be flush on the outside and will stick in about 2 1/2" which will cover the 715 vent/gap. The deflectors will help the air wrap around the frame then direct it back toward the glass. The other option i've been thinkin' could be a series of "through holes" that let the air pass through the deuce frame. Drill the holes then weld in light tubing and flush them off.
As for the angle I think its going to be gone. I like the square deuce look and the hinge/sidelocks will work well if its square. I dont know how it would work if I tried to keep the angle (meaning Im not that good at engineering:(). Thanks gimpy, Jay.
Well, its a rough call. I would think it would be TOO much work putting in the tubes, not knowing it would work or not. Since a true defroster uses the moisture removal of the AC, I would think about mabe some ducting or a 24v fan. Got any pics with the windshield folded down? Anyone? If you have access to a deuce cab. Look under and check out the ducts. I was told that ALL deuces have the 90 degree duct welded into the cab. Weather it has a heater or not.
All 4 of my M35 cabs have the defrost ducting under the windshield. That is 3 Gasser cabs and one 1972 AM General A2C cab.
Hey fellas, not sure if its stock or not but the ducting is already there along with a heater, etc. I think its from a wagon, but at any rate the defrost flow comes out of two 8" wide vents that are burried down in that gap between the windshield and dash. To keep the most amount of glass I can, the M35 frame will be set flush with the top of that gap which will seal off the flow. I dont see why it wouldnt work (to have air go through the M35 frame) but still thinking about it. Here is a shot of the duct/vent under the dash:
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Got a chance to take the saw to it this morning. Measured twice and made 22 cuts. This will make for 11 weld joints. Cut it up so much to keep the wipers and latches centered. Here is a shot with the stock window set back on top. The pieces are how much of the frame is removed and that pile of rust is what came out of the tubes, doh! :eek: The best thing about hacking it up is that now it will fit into my buddy's sand blast cabinet:
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I found these tucked away on Saturn Surplus's website. They are an upgrade for the M35 wiper arms. Just thought id post em' in case anybody else could use them.
http://saturnsurplus.com/vehicles/sat-51-062c.htm
Talk to you guys later, Jay
Looks good Jay. So the pieces sitting on the floor is the size it will be welded back together as? I suppose that since you mention Saturn, you know they have the best prices for window seals. Glad to see the progress! Winter sneaking up has put my 725 build on hold. There are/were some things on my big trucks that need attention before the cold gets here.
Well,l I have been chipping away at this project as time permits and just thought id post some pics of the progress:
Here is what I ended up doing for the defrost ducts. I found some 1" x 3" rec. tubing, diced it up, cut out the frame, and welded in. There will be air flow through the frame on both sides of the latch and it gave some strength to the tubing too. Before I started any of it I taped up the ends of the tubes and put a sand and rock mix in. I shook em' up real good then poured out the loose rust/scale. Internal sandblasting I call it. When its all done there will a hole in which rust converter will be poured in and shaken up to prevent any more. I got the parts over to my buddys house and sandblasted the weld areas.
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The insert strips that the hinges and latches thread into were 1/8" thick and were rusted out. The bolt/screw threads were bad and as I backed them out a couple broke off. The ones that didnt left the threads reamed out. I cut out the old strips and replaced them with a 1/4" strip. Cut new threads and rivited them back in.
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Here are the upper and lower parts of the frame ready to be put back together.
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Here it is going back together. A piece of angle aluminum for a straight edge and my garage floor kept everything square.
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Its all tacked up and ready to weld. When done I took the corner to corner measurements and its right on the money. Thats a first..no problems yet:).
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9837/dscn0924oo7.jpg
Ill post some more pics of the fit up on the truck in a sec.
Looks like it fits up good. A couple of the pics you can see the amount of glass I am going to loose...not to much. Now its time to work on the windows:)
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Wow, really nice fab work there. Welds look good too. Now I'm gettin' into the outcome of this project, keep the photo's rollin'.
Love it dude! You will be so happy with the outcome once you get it done. Real nice work too.